Hi Everyone

The R-11's are in the final stages of preparation for production.

If you are interested in viewing pictures of a pre production model, please visit "Joe Frank's NYC Transit Modelers Group Forum Board" website. Joe Frank has a MTH R-11 Pilot Car Sample Shell currently in his possession for his
inspection and shown on his EL Layout. Joe posted photos taken of the pilot model he has on July 4, 2009.

Finishing details are missing, such as the stom door, chains, trucks etc.

But the finish on the car is spot on and we will be thrilled at this model.

Steve

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Steven,

Steven-

Unable to access. Can you post the appropriate link? Many thanx.

Here's the link to the NYC Transit Modeler's Group

The adjusted plated finish on these models is right on! The green cast we saw on the pre-production samples at York is gone and the model looks perfect! Hopefully MTH will ship this year.

Elliot

how about just posting the pics on here?

What is the purpose of this link? It doesn't show the pre-production R-11s at all - just some fuzzy pics of old trains. You have to be a Yahoo member to access any of the links on the page. Can't anyone just provide pics instead of links to nowhere?

I have scoured that yahoo site and can't find those R-11 photos anywhere...Anybody have a link?
Is there a release date for these and the R-142's yet?
Thanks

same here,STEVE JUST POST THE PICS.

i belong to the group on yahoo and can't find the pics, how about somebody just post them.

Looks like the one on the right has the original "green" finish that we saw at York in April. The one on the left appears to have the modified plating. According to one MTH Distributor, they are expected in October. We shall see.

Elliot

Those two in the MTH display? Those look an awful lot like the unpainted engineering samples. If they were plated or even painted, they'd be a good deal brighter than in the above pic.

---PCJ

I agree with Patrick. Those are clearly unpainted samples. I saw the pics Joe put up, and I think they look good. Hard to be sure though because you never know what the lighting conditions were or what white balance settings were used. I trust MTH will get them right.

Yeah, like they got the roofs right on those CTA cars? Those look like plastic car bodys. They could've used the same plating tech on the R40's or a set of R32/38's. Why do I get the feeling they are doing all the sets that never had MTA logos?

Chris,

You are probably right... unless the lighting was so bad in the MTH booth. The pics that Joe posted were right on.

Elliot

They hadn't started the plating experiment yet when the 32s were released - and i don't think even when the 40s were released. They are still working on it. Just remember where we subway fans were 10 years ago before MTH took the plunge on the infamous R42 shorties.

Well, with reports of MTH ditching its CTA license, and Lionel opting out of subway sets, we might be back there again....

Hopefully not - at least not until we get a set of R15s

Actually we will never be back there again - there are already around 20 sets out there, most easily attainable...many of which if you got multiple sets could still be re-painted into many other versions and models. We still have a pretty steady flow of subways coming. R11s, R34s and R142s still in the pipeline. When the subways first started we were lucky if we got a new subway every second or third catalog. Right now I think we've only gone 2 catalogs without a new NY subway announcement. In this economy I don't think that's a big deal. The R12s and R17s somewhat flooded the market there for a while. Probably a good idea to back off a bit. It would be great to see a new announcment in October but I don't think it would be a big deal if MTH waits 'til April for the next one. Better to get caught up with the 11s, 34s and 142s first. Then, bring on the 15s, and 10s.

I hope you are right Chris. I wish I'd been able to hear about some of those other sets when they were new. I missed out on the R36 and R21 redbirds, and I didnt realise I liked the CTA cars till I got to ride on them. I'm just glad I caught a set of R1's on Ebay, and I recently snagged an R26 and a set of Standards. Im gonna need another R26 or R17 Redbird if Im going to get my custom set fixed, but Im really hoping for R160's, at least after the R142's come out...

Here's an update on delivery status of the R-11's. I spoke with Andy at the MTH booth in Owosso over the weekend. He stated that the sets should be on the water in August for a September ship date!

When I questioned him about future MTH subway releases, he assured me that MTH is not getting out of the subway business... just laying low for awhile until the sets that were promised are delivered and the market shows signs of improvement. He hinted that we could possibly see some reissues or repaints of prior releases with different route numbers/destinations. Reissuing popular subway sets, I believe would be a first for them and I can just visualize the after-market "collector" values drop on certain "most-wanted" sets like the World's Fair cars and the R-32's.

We shall see...

Elliot

Re-issuing existing sets goes back to the very first set. The infamous shorty R42s were initially offered in silver and blue with D signage, then re-released in all silver with E signage. They also re-issued the R12s and R17s in several schemes. I wouldn't mind some re-issues. In order, I'd like to see:

R21s in silver with blue stripe signed for the 1 line.

R17 in original maroon signed for the 6 line.

R36s in true Redbird colors signed for the 7 line.

Of course I would prefer to see some new sets...

R15 in silver with blue stripe signed for the 1.
R10 in aqua / white signed for the A
R33 in World's Fair colors signed for the 7.

Those 3 of course could then be re-released in:

R15 in original maroon/cream
R10 in silver/blue
R10 in Greenbird scheme
R10 in original 2 tone gray.
R33 in Redbird colors
R33 in white
R33 in Greenbird scheme.

You are indeed correct, Chris regarding the reissues you mentioned. I guess "re-release" would be more appropriate. I was visualizing a set of the R-32 brightliners, perhaps in a plated version with aluminum doors, and and signed for something other than the D or N, maybe even a "Cyclops" signed for the C.

I will take some re-issues especially the R-36's in redbird colers for the 7 or The R-40 slants in the A or B train and the R-21 in the blue and silver, maybe a rebuilt R-32 in c train. Then lets do some newer cars like the R44 or 46 or R160's in the E train or R-38. Even a Non Slant R-40. To make the people who like the old stuff happy release a old set and a new set each year so the old and the new guys are both happy.

I can think of a few routes and combos.... mainly reissues of the silver /blue and Late 80's redbird schemes for the IRT cars, redo the R32/38 for the A, C, and E lines to compliment the F R40's. R42 or R40 MM in D,E,N or even J/Z routes. R 1/9 for the other original IND routes to compliment the R1 set, redo the standards for other BMT routes. For new cars, Of course R142/160 in every route possible (LOL kid in a toystore comin through) I would also like to see a REAL work locomotive. They also might want to think of synching the station stops between sets. the 4,5,6 should ALL have 42 street or 125 street, for example. Maybe they can consder doing a double subway trestle, without the supports standing in what would be the roadway uner a real el. (More wishful thinking, but what the heck....)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pelham Express:
I hope you are right Chris. I wish I'd been able to hear about some of those other sets when they were new. I missed out on the R36 and R21 redbirds QUOTE]

same here,i found out in 2000,but mth came out with subs in 98.i had a 2 year catch up.but luckily ...................i made it .........you can too. heres 2 sets

r-36

r-36

This message has been edited. Last edited by: CCrider,

thanx sno, I'll jump into the fray for these, lol