Ok, I recently watched the film "Money Train".

Is that what the real money train looks like in NY?

Would you buy a Money Train car from MTH or Lionel? I tried to find info on the real money train but no luck.

Paul

The real movie's Money train is sitting at the Coney Island Yards in such disrepair that you could hardly recognize it was the same train in the movie. I'd buy it if MTH came out with it. Here's a pic of the real one...

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The real money train looked nothing like the one in the movie. They looked like MOW equipment. The one in the movie was a modified Redbird - R33 I think. It was all Hollywooded up. LOL! Brian was scratch-building one about 10 years ago but we haven't seen any recent progress. I'd buy one if MTH did one. I think it would be a cool addition to the collection.

The REAL money train:

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Originally posted by NYSubway18:
The real money train looked nothing like the one in the movie...Brian was scratch-building one about 10 years ago but we haven't seen any recent progress.

Wait!!! That pic I posted above of the movie money train is the one Brian was working on for the last 10yrs. That's him in the pic, still working on it. Now that he did 90% of. Mother nature finished the rest of it...

Does anyone know if the TA still runs any revenue collection trains? Last time I worked a money train trick was car number eight out of Concourse yard in the winter of 92/93. By that point in time certain money trains were already discontinued and others were cut back to a just few nights a weeks. On the lines where the trains were discontinued the revenue was picked up by armored truck. Besides collecting revenue another function of the money train was to deliver tokens but metro card has pretty much replaced the subway token.

Good movie. I'd watch it again sometime if it came on TV again.

I take it the silver one is the one used in the movie?

You got it Dave. It was a real subway car, but Hollywood added the aluminum finish and all the fancy lights. I have to say, it made for a better movie prop than the real thing.

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Originally posted by Jocko D:
Does anyone know if the TA still runs any revenue collection trains? Last time I worked a money train trick was car number eight out of Concourse yard in the winter of 92/93. By that point in time certain money trains were already discontinued and others were cut back to a just few nights a weeks. On the lines where the trains were discontinued the revenue was picked up by armored truck. Besides collecting revenue another function of the money train was to deliver tokens but metro card has pretty much replaced the subway token.

The last collection train was taken out of service early last year. Last place I saw it was at the 207 st yard

For years I remember seeing a SHORT R-9 looking car in Jamaica Yard from the parkway. Does anyone know what it was? It had only 2 doors on each side of the car. Looked to be about 40 foot long.
tumbleweed

Sounds like you saw half of one of the clearance test cars. I think they cut it in half, added a platform in the middle to extend it to 75'. Then ran it through the system in preparation for the R-44s.

Found it:


There were a couple of them.

That picture is on Staten Island right by the Berry homes

How long ago was that picture taken?

Notice the ties and pocket savers.

I assume that if it ran now, OSHA would require the workers would have vests and hard hats.

Lad

It was taken in 1970 Here is another shot of the same car in St George

No, the car I speak of was not half of that car. The car in Jamiaca Yard had the body style of R-9 only it was short. It had 2 pairs of doors in the normal places from the end of the car on each side. The car might have been 40 or so feet long and was dark green. So unless the put that longer car back together, without the center section and re-painted it green, it still is a mystery. I'm thinking I saw it in the mid 70's.
tumbleweed

Regarding that MTA clearance car in the SIRT, it amused me to think that clearances along the SIRT had been set up long before so it could handle up to 85' long, main-line passenger cars.

But I guess it was better to check than to find a suprise later on. Does anyone know if that clearance car was run before or after the borrowed Long Island MP-75's came to Staten Island for a while?

Main-line passenger cars cars did roll over parts of the SIRT from Cranford Junction to at least Stapleton from the early 1900's to 1957, when the last main-line B&O specials (two trains with 11 cars and 12 cars each) came to the Island powered by B&O "E" type passenger service diesels.

A special car clearance check point was located at Arlington Yard, where every car and locomotive coming to the Island had to pass through, assuring it would clear the third-rail and high-level platforms. Any car or loco found uable to do so was restricted to Arlington Yard and could not move further over the SIRT.

Ed Bommer

The clearance car was on staten Island in 1970 getting rady for the R-44's. The LIRR cars came in 1973 as seen in this pic

How did they get those LIRR cars on the Staten Island?

Greg and all, the LIRR cars came to Staten Island on a B&O carfloat with a B&O tug from Long Island City. The SIRT freight yard was still intact at St. George as was the carfloat transfer bridge. The LIRR cars were returned the same way.

I'm not sure if the new R-44 SI cars came to the Island by direct rail from St. Louis over the Arthur Kill Bridge and the North Shore line which was still intact, or brought to the Island by carfloat.

Because of several problems with the first R-44-SI crs, a number of them had to be returned to the St. Louis Car Co. for warrantee work. The cost of that work exceeded the amount of their performance bond. The St. Louis Car Company went bankrupt and was out of business after the delivery of the final set of R-44 SI cars.

The old SIRT MUE cars left the Island over the North Shore line and Arthur Kill Bridge to meet the scrapper's torch in Newark NJ. Because they had to cross a state line to get there, all the cars going for scrap had to be shopped at Clifton to meet minimum ICC and FRA requirements concerning wheels, brakes and safety appliances (grab irons, etc).

Ed Bommer

Cracking trucks on the R44 did them in.

Ben, Thank you for answering my question. I knew the TA was looking to do away with the money trains and I'm surprised one train lasted until 2007.

Tumbleweed, The car you saw in Jamaica Yard was an R8A revenue collection car. Two R8A revenue collection cars were built by the St.Louis Car Company in 1939. The R8A's were trailer cars and originally painted green like the rest of the R-1 through 9 fleet.

The R8A cars were 44' 7" in length and had one doorway on each end of the car. The R8A's were originally numbered 66 and 67 but were re-numbered 20176 and 20177 in 1962.

The R8A's were used on revenue collection train #7 out of Jamaica Yard and revenue collection train #8 out of Concourse Yard.

Thanks Jocko

R8A

Renumbered to 30177 in 1966