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Securing approval without having to pay a substantial royalty was my biggest concern, so I am pumped now that will not be the case. In fact I was told that there would be no royalty since the number of cars made will be small (100 - 300) and not sold for a profit. Will post again as soon as I have information on the design and manufacturer. I lean towards the design of the steel reefer that is pictured above but on a WOODSIDED REEFER with the picture of the tin sign I posted instead of the logo picture shown on the steel reefer.



This is an interesting tidbit. I wonder if others who have done custom Atlas O runs ran into this issue and thus having to release 300-300 cars per run with a couple of years inbetween runs? Roll Eyes

Also people interested in the purchase may want to keep this in mind since 300 cars can sell out quickly and if no more can be made...well you know like a juicy steak on a grill.. may collectors would want their prized reefer pieces to be....

also note if atlas O reefer costs per piece is too expensive you do have Joe HAyter at Weaver models too! Wink Good Thread Thanks


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Paul I agree that the steel sided reefer art work would look much better on the woodsided reefer with one change. "All Natural Light Beer" never appeared in any of 50's and early 60's advertising and only represents one type of Natty Boh. I think it should be eliminated and replaced with the original Boh slogan - "From the Land of Pleasant Living" "” a reference to the Chesapeake Bay. BTW to call it Natty Boh is a relatively new catch word just like Mickey D. Back in the day you just asked for a Boh. Big Grin Big Grin


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I'm in agreement with Wild Mary on the wording, and on the woodsided reefer, too!


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I'm in. Woodsided please!
 
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I would be interested in a couple of the steel-side reefers from Atlas. It could be Master Line or Train Man. Smile I would not be interested if offered by MTH.


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I like your ideas for decoration. If you do an Atlas 40' I'm good for two. Bruce
 
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I also would love to have one.


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Spoke with Atlas on Friday and they are sending me the paper work. It looks like it is going to cost me about 8K to 9K to have the minimum of 152 woodside 40 foot reefers made by Atlas. I am waiting to get a final figure from them after the art work is done and approved, so I hope that those that said they want whatever number are serious about wanting them. I have never bought any Weaver woodsided reefers, if they are much cheaper then Atlas would the interest still be the same? I lean towards Atlas myself but it is a big outlay and since I won't be selling them for a profit I have to determine that I am not going to get stuck with a whole bunch of reefers.


Paul S.
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Paul thanks for instituting and carrying forth with this project. I will definetly buy 2 reefers. Let's hope that everyone who stated an interest buys at least one and maybe even 2. This is probably going to be a once in a lifetime chance. I'll see what I can do to get a few of my buds to commit also.
I'd also rather have Atlas do them but if Weaver is a LOT more cost effective I'll still take 2. Wink Thanks


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Paul, thanks for your efforts with this project. I am still good the two.


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Paul,
Thanks again for the leg work.
I'm still in for 2. You definitely want to get the money up front so you don't get hosed, although 152 Natty Boh reefer would look really impressive! Big Grin

Let us know when you want the cash if you still want to go through with it.
Thanks again!


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Paul,

I'm pretty confident that you will be able to sell 152 Atlas Natty Boh Reefers.
Like I said before, count me in for one car guaranteed.

As soon as you get the final figures for the cost of the cars I'll be glad to mail you a check in advance. No sense in you taking such a financial risk.

Thanks again for all of your efforts in getting this project going. It's a lot of time and money on your part and all of us here on the forum appreciate your passion for this project. Thanks


TrainPop and I visited Purkey's today where I bought an MTH American Beer Reefer and Chuck bought several MTH beer reefers. Purkey's has a very nice assortment of MTH beer cars by the way.


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I agree a 152 Natty Boh consist would look great.................all the way to divorce court LMAO!


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Hi Paul - I agree with Steve - should be easy to sell those out. I also agree that you should get the money up front. If these remain ATLAS I would like one as well - if you have two different numbers - will take two (2).

John
 
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I have never bought any Weaver woodsided reefers, if they are much cheaper then Atlas would the interest still be the same?
Probably not because:

  • side "Doors" on Weaver models are painted on
  • MAy get plastic trucks and couplers
  • Not that much delicate detail.

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    I lean towards Atlas myself but it is a big outlay and since I won't be selling them for a profit I have to determine that I am not going to get stuck with a whole bunch of reefers.


    DON'T be a FOOL! All the work and effort is surely worth 10% min! You will find with even two road numbers on a 150 car run that they will sell quickly... esp with ads in OGR! Once you sell out, there will be those late bloomers who will demand another run[ Think of those Bob LAvessi Glueck Reefers! Red Face]... now where do you get the $$ for all that hassle? Eek

    Don't just think 3 rail!!! 2 railers will want them too since with a screw driver a car can EASILY convert them. Ad both two railers and 3 railers and your #150 car run is GONE!

    VA Golpher... just do us forumites a favor. Post a mailing address when you are ready to Go with this project and people will PAY up front- esp on a small #150 car run.[ Just keep GOOD records and NOte who is paying FIRST so they get first shipment. Wink] Good Thread Thanks


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    Probably not because:


    side "Doors" on Weaver models are painted on

    MAy get plastic trucks and couplers

    Not that much delicate detail.


    Thanks I don't have any Weaver and can't remember even seeing a Weaver reefer personally.


    Paul S.
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    Modeling N&W, NS, WM, PRR, B&O, C&O, Virginian, Southern, UP, Santa FE, C&NW, Southern Pacific, and the Lehigh Valley lines here in "Peach Hollow, VA!"
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    I have a few Weaver reefers, and while I like them (for what they are), they are nowhere near as nice as Atlas reefers. The Weaver are not as detailed, but also not as expensive. Either way, I still want at least one. If multiple road numbers can be done, I'd want two.

    Personally, I don't think that you'd have any problem getting rid of 150 Atlas reefers sporting the markings of such a popular brand. I, too, will gladly pre-pay for mine.

    Andy


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    Originally posted by GP:


    GP

    A Fruit Growers express car will require a license from CSX. I prefer this design on a woodside car.

    I like the following design on a steel reefer.


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    For what it's worth, I'd like to see this in the wood sided reefer. I'm not sure why, but I think Atlas makes a superior product and is willing to work with the hobbiest more than most.


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    Okay received paperwork from Atlas yesterday and filling it out now. Will keep updating as the process goes along. Gotten great response so far and I do appreciate the offers I have recieved to make advanced payment which does make things easier on my pocketbook LOL! Will let everyone know how things are going along, what the cost will be when I get the final cost from Atlas, when Atlas will be actually making the reefers, etc. If 200 are made I can get 2 road numbers 152 minimum only 1 road number so am looking at stretching it out to 200 so we can get 2 road numbers, but no promises


    Paul S.
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    Bull Run Railroaders Club
    Modeling N&W, NS, WM, PRR, B&O, C&O, Virginian, Southern, UP, Santa FE, C&NW, Southern Pacific, and the Lehigh Valley lines here in "Peach Hollow, VA!"
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    Paul again thanks for what you are doing for the forum. We all owe you big time. Two road numbers would be great if you can pull it off. With two #'s the 200 cars are probably already sold!


    Wild Mary (AKA Nick)
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    Ditto what prrhorseshoecurve said above.

    I'd like to pay for two up front as early as possible: one reefer because I like the design; and a second reefer because how much more cool can you get than OGR forumites getting together to do something like this? I hope we'll see some more!

    Kudos again to Paul S. for having a great idea and making it happen!


    Respectfully,

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    Paul, I will pay you up front for two.
     
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    I would like to get one. What are the payment details?
    BTW Thank you for taking the initiative on this Boh Reefer project.



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