OK, here is the official thread to gnash our collective teeth over the delivery of the MTH Liberty Liners.

Any one have any hot inside info on when we will get these? Even some loose lipped hearsay would suffice at this point!

The MTH web site still says Nov 08! And for the Electroliner.

Didn't Jim Sutter mention not until April 2009 for these?

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The MTH web site still says Nov 08!

Really?!? Well then, they must be in Maryland right now being tested!

To quote David Crosby (yes, that David Crosby)

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It's been a long time comin'
It's goin' to be a Long Time Gone.
And it appears to be a long,
appears to be a long,
appears to be a long
time, yes, a long, long, long ,long time before the dawn.

Bill

I wonder how long it took the St. Louis Car Company to design and build the original Electroliners. Oh well, they didn't have to deal with the same amount of government red tape.

Gerry

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Didn't Jim Sutter mention not until April 2009 for these?

Say it aint so!!


A long time indeed Bill!!!


Now how much longer until the Brill Bullets?

I am guessing that despite MTHs November date, that these will not make it onto Santa's sleigh... ???

At York, the MTH representative told me December ... 2008. A few dealers I've spoken to suggest somewhat later.

Why MTH refuses to catalog a Brill Bullet is a bigger mystery. The current PCC or Brill chasis, sounds, etc could be used with little or no modification. There are a number of Lines that ran them and lovers of the brill bullet would certainly buy multiples in various paint schemes.

According to Rich Foster a couple of days ago they will be here in about 2 weeks.

Charlie,

Thats really good news!

rdg_fan,

I have always thought the same thing, just cast a new shell and slap it on the PCC base. Easy-Peasy!!!!

I believe that they will come the same time as the E44s Bill, well in time for Christmas next year.
Hopefully I am wrong along with Jim Sutter.
My wife is giving me a big empty box with a note, Owed one E44.

Better then a lump of coal.

John P

Bill and CharlieNassua: If that "two weeks" date is correct, that really is good news. My doubt about it is that they did not have a sample of it at York. Usually one of the early production "shots" is available a few months before the real thing arrives. I certainly hope that a surprise is in store for me.

Of course, I'm waiting for the Electroliner, but I would suspect that the Liberty Liners and the Electroliners would be available at the same time.

Paul Fischer

Considering that the project had to be restarted from scratch, and that an unpainted sample made it into the catalog, two weeks delivery from now is a bit of a surprise, seeing that the test shots didn't make an appearance at York.

I recall hearing that these units needed a whole new underfloor drive system like the 3rd Rail models. I wonder how accurate that is.

---PCJ

They're in the capable hands of the Godot Shipping Co. --> "They'll be here soo"

I should hasten to add that*, if the statement about a new PS2-compatible underfloor drive system is true, this brings up the possibility of modern light rail vehicles. K-Line came pretty close with the trucks for their trolleys, but this could be the start of something bigger (gotta amortize that tooling)

---PCJ

*'cause I'm reading an FRA report on what to do with Baltimore area freight and passenger facilities, and got to thinking about Baltimore's LRVs.

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Originally posted by BillP:
OK, here is the official thread to gnash our collective teeth over the delivery of the MTH Liberty Liners.


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Bill, Have you ordered a set...perhaps to run on the modules? The reason I ask is that a set of 3-D slides has come up for sale showing Liberty Liners taken 1968-71 in the Upper Darby area. If you're running it during a show, the slides may be fun to have with us.

Joe,

Yes the would be for shows.

Where do you get the slides?

Anyone get theirs?

MTH Web Site is still showing NOV 2008 as ship date, Does that mean they shipped last month???

Bill, my understanding is that the trains are actually here, but that Jill and Taylor aren't ready to do the video yet.

And Mike has figured out that his sales to dirty old men are much greater when there is a video.

Gerry

Gerry,

I suspected at much!

In another thread Jimmy over at the Pine Street Poor House had said that the Electroliner was bumped to April, 2009 I hope. My guess is it will be the same with the Libertyliner.



Milwrd

I m late to join this "thread" but when I asked Mike Wolf about the Electroliners in York, he told me December and that they were in the process of getting the "Tooling" set up. I have heard that there was a problem with the coupling the units that didnt perform properly and delivery has been moved back until the spring of 2009.

It's official - MTH website says APR 09.

Aye Carumba!

I am sorry for your lose Bill, I was hoping you got them. But alas we are looking at April for them and January for the E44s. April for the Levin E-8s.

I Carumba shows you to be a gentleman, my outburst explatives are not suited for this family forum.

Well I thank MTH for making them, no one else would step up unless they were brass.

John P

Bill,

Just think; APRIL. Bennett's E8s; Liberty Liners and PHILLIES!!!

What could be better? Watch the PHILLIES and play with the new trains at the same time!

Bill

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Originally posted by prrbill:
Bill,

Just think; APRIL. Bennett's E8s; Liberty Liners and PHILLIES!!!

What could be better? Watch the PHILLIES and play with the new trains at the same time!

Bill

Yes! this is very true, Phillies , New Trains, Mets beating themselfs. Life is good.
Good thinking Bill.

March has begun so we have about 8 or 9 weeks to go until April expires.

MTH still showing APRIL 2009 on the site.

So I have like 6 weeks to connect the TIU to the layout in anticipation of these puppies arriving?

Anyone hear anything?

5 Weeks To Go!

I might even incorporate Susan Deat's DCS filters by then!

I'm waiting on the Liberty Liners too. Hope they don't beat the record of 3 1/2 years I waited for Mel's diner.

4 Weeks To Go!

(Don't reset the clock now MTH!)

Will these work on an inverted helix? Sometimes the ride on them felt like a helix.

Gerry

Gerry I hope they will!

I hope they are here in time for the Heritage festival with Brother Bill....

I have the original 3ft x 4ft sign that hung at 69th street terminal in Upper Darby, Pa. Put it up in my train room recently. I have 3rd Rail Liberty Liners (3rail). The look and run great.

Paul

I plain gave up and canceled my order for the Electroliner.

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I have 3rd Rail Liberty Liners (3rail). They look and run great.

Paul

I own one, as well. Very pleased, indeed, with the Liberty Liner set issued by 3rd Rail in 2004.

Bob Bubeck
TCA 94-38531

3 Weeks to go!

Any sightings???

If we do not hear anything sooner, please post any updates from York.

Thanks!

Web site still says APR 09

Taylor says Electroliners will be at York.

Dale H

A sign!

Hey Bill,

We'll have to take the big car to York so we can fit in all the Liberty Liners!!!

Bill

Oh the waiting. Bill - Leave one for me.

I am as anxious about these as everyone, but I was told they are not on the "On-the-Water" list as of this week.

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Taylor says Electroliners will be at York.

Hopefully, as stupid as this sounds...someone will take it outside, away from the long arm of the law and snap a few shots...
Joe

2 Weeks to go!

Bill, I got mine Tuesday. Pics coming Don