Contrary to rumors all models of the Mohawk with have ears included. Official word from MTH is they are on the water. Anyone know how long it takes MTH to test run each engine?

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Charlie said they were already there and being tested.... like a week ago...

My LHS told me he was told to expect them at the shop early Nov.

Sorry Muffin, Charlie is wrong per MTH on their facebook page. I can only report what I read

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Sorry Muffin, Charlie is wrong per MTH on their facebook page. I can only report what I read

Dang - I was hoping to pick some up at York....

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Originally posted by superwarp1:
Contrary to rumors all models of the Mohawk with have ears included.

Even the MR. T Mohawk has ears included!

Mike Wolf reported today at the TCA Museum that the Mohawks are expected to arrive next week.

Thanks for the update, Gary. That clarifies some issues with the photos on the previous Mohawk post where they showed the L3b with smoke deflectors and the catalog says the L3c and L4b come with smoke deflectors. I believe addition of the smoke deflectors makes the locomotives with front pump covers/modernization plates more aesthetically pleasing.

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Mike Wolf reported today at the TCA Museum that the Mohawks are expected to arrive next week.

Arrive at stores or at the MTH warehouse?

Good luck deciding which ones to get - I spent 15 minutes looking at them.... they are each one very very nice..... we have two Lionel and one 3rd rail but we will need to get in on these too.....

I don't have this class in my collection. All I need know is a pacific in NYC

any update at York????

I saw the L3b and the L4a. They looked good and sounded even better. Not as fine as the 3rd Rail L3b, but you will be pleased. Must stronger steam loco sounds are being used now.

Yeah nothing beats a 3rdrail engine. I came close to getting the 3rdrail L3b but really wanted the L4b which I'm getting now from MTH. I really need to stop putz-ing around and get DCS hooked up Then I'll be ready for this nice engine.

Any sighted yet?....

I saw them at Willis Hobbies in Mineola NY over the weekend. Very nice!

The two Mohawks I saw at EngineHouse Hobbies on Saturday had smoke deflectors in the box, which you can elect to install if desired. There is also additional piping to be installed on the tender if you have a minimum operating radius of 72" or greater.

The two Mohawks I saw also had different sound packages. One (L-3a) is passenger station sounds; the other depicts a scenario with the locomotive setting up for NYC photographer Ed Nowak to shoot his famous color and b&w images of a Mohawk (with smoke deflectors) pulling 25 or so Pacemaker box cars through Breakneck Tunnel along the Hudson River in the spring of 1946. This latter Mohawk is the one that comes with the five Pacemaker box cars and caboose in the MTH "set." Its whistle is considerably higher pitched than is the one that comes with the passenger train sound package.

Both locomotives were beautiful (but then I'm a sucker for Big Steam anyway!), and interestingly did not come with classification lights. I looked carefully at both of Al Staufer's NYC motive power books when I got home, but could find no classification lights on any L-3 or L-4 Mohawks...or if they were there, I could not see them in multiple photographs I examined. Interesting...I would have thought these were safety issues mandated by the Federal Government.

Perhaps Brian Scace or another NYC subject matter expert would care to enlighten me re classification lights on Mohawks.

At IHobby, this past weekend, Andy said that they had begun shipping to dealers last thursday & Friday.

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Both locomotives were beautiful (but then I'm a sucker for Big Steam anyway!), and interestingly did not come with classification lights. I looked carefully at both of Al Staufer's NYC motive power books when I got home, but could find no classification lights on any L-3 or L-4 Mohawks...or if they were there, I could not see them in multiple photographs I examined. Interesting...I would have thought these were safety issues mandated by the Federal Government.

Class lights were not required on the New York Central Main Line after 1938. So, while in main line service, these locomotives, like the J3a Hudsons, would have been "classless." You may find photos of these locomotive, later in their careers, on secondary lines with added class lights.

First, class lights on the front of steam locomotives, or diesels for that mater, where NOT required by the ICC (now the FRA), and had nothing to do with safety. The class lights where only to indicate "second section following" - green, or "extra" - white, or "rear of engine" - red, i.e. backing up at night.

When some NYC locomotives where assigned to the Mich. Central or Big Four, class lights where added. Thus you can tell by looking at the front of Hudsons, Mohawks, etc. where they where assigned from year to year. I have seen photos of the same locomotive number, taken years apart and one shot has class lights and the other one does not.

talked to Bill Lucas at Ready to Roll on Sat and he said they were on the truck from MTH to Miami. Then back to Dallas! I'm really looking forward to these -- they used to run thru my home town.

Hot Water, re classification lights, thkx!...now I know.

I'll be expecting a phone call from Jim's train shop shortly.

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I'll be expecting a phone call from Jim's train shop shortly.

Gary - I hope you have one on order - he is sold out....

Here is a video from toytrains1 of one of the new Mohawks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7ompkbVvQ

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Gary - I hope you have one on order - he is sold out....

Yes I do


Does Toytrain1 ever post anymore? Forgot all about that guy. Anyway the video shows the one I have on order. Great looking engine which would look even better if MTH had gone the extra mile and had roller bearing side rods instead of the friction ones shown. A minor detail

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Does Toytrain1 ever post anymore?

No - he and I e-mail occassionally.... I believe he still does his videos....

Holy Cow - there's a link up thereto his video of the Mohawk..... I don't have the courage to run our reefers - they're shelf queens...... Nice of him to run a car from Indianapolis first.....

First modification to the Mohawk is that gap between tender and engine. Good thing I have a drawbar kit ready for this engine

We didn't order one - thought we would check them out at York and decide which one to pick up..... Jimmy says he can come through with the 4a set for us... I would still like a 4b..... My birthday is past and it's too far to Christmas - I might be hosed...

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Holy Cow - there's a link up thereto his video of the Mohawk..... I don't have the courage to run our reefers - they're shelf queens...... Nice of him to run a car from Indianapolis first.....

I miss Dave. I don't know why he doesn't post anymore and I never run into him at trains shows either but at least he is still in the hobby. I always enjoyed his videos. He's a good guy. Nice Mohawk too.

Is the whistle supposed to quill? I have SPW on the DCS screen, but when I push it, it says 'check track'.

Chuck, I heard the whistle "quill" on both Mohawks at Engine House Hobbies on Saturday. But you have to have DCS 4.1 in your TIU and remotes for it to work. I don't (yet) so I can't.

Thanks for confirming Rick. I am running 4.1. I wonder if the sound file is bad.
Neither the box or instructions say anything about a quilling whistle, but the SPW appears on the DCS screen.

Got mine from EngineHouseHobbies today. Hey Rick, heard you were there, sorry I missed you. I planned on going on Saturday, but couldn't make it.

Pretty much the usual:
- Runs smooth down to 2 mph which is not typical, usually 3 is lowest.
- Heavy smoke
- The whistle sounds great and is very unique for the freight version. can't do the quill yet, haven't done 4.1 yet
- Impressed with the extra piping on the bottom sides of the tender. They don't come installed because they you need min O-72 to keep the trucks from swinging into them.

Here are some photos.











Enjoy!

Rich
www.toytrainsontracks.com

Thanks Rich - very nice.....

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Got mine from EngineHouseHobbies today. Hey Rick, heard you were there, sorry I missed you. I planned on going on Saturday, but couldn't make it.

Pretty much the usual:
- Runs smooth down to 2 mph which is not typical, usually 3 is lowest.
- Heavy smoke
- The whistle sounds great and is very unique for the freight version. can't do the quill yet, haven't done 4.1 yet
- Impressed with the extra piping on the bottom sides of the tender. They don't come installed because they you need min O-72 to keep the trucks from swinging into them.

Hey Rich, please advise the MTH product Number on the one you purchased, as i do not remember which model I pre-ordered, I was a little confused with the pilots on the 5 engines, would you please clarify, thanks

Ok, I have not heard from Jim's train shop yet. I think a call is in order. I'm liking what I see so far.


Rich,

Thanks for posting pics

Rich, as usual, great visuals...and that piping really "pops the scene" as Malcom Furlow used to say. Haven't even gotten mine out of the box yet, though Ron did demo it for me.

Layout also looks great...again...as usual! Rick

Note from a 2-railer: You folks have crossed a line somewhere here. Looks like a scale model on a scale railroad with tinplate track. And even the track looks darn good, considering.

superwarp1,
Good Morning. We have your "Mohawk" steam engine. Take care and have a great day.
Jimmy

Rich,

Looks great! I can't wait to pick mine up this week after I get paid.

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Note from a 2-railer: You folks have crossed a line somewhere here. Looks like a scale model on a scale railroad with tinplate track. And even the track looks darn good, considering.

Bob2, that is what weathered Scaletrax can do!

Rich, I see you have done quite a bit of weathering on the layout. Even your Lionel bridges in the background. You're hooked now!

P.S. you need to raise your deck plate between the tender & engine, it's a long fall for the crew.

Not too bad for diecast. The air reservoirs and other appliances hide the boiler shape a bit beneath the walkways.

Is that engineer side eccentric 90 degrees out??

I may look for one of these used a year or two from now.

Trainut,

Mine is 20-3374-1 L-3c which is the older freight version. As I understand, the whistle is different than the passenger version. I did not know this, but like it. I actually changed my order from the new version L-4 with the flat face because I liked this one better, and wanted to save myself some money by not needing a NYC passenger set.


Al,

I knew you'd be the one to notice! The track and bridges are all weathered, as well as some buildings and trains. Did you see these weathered engines?
I just notice I missed a spot on the track. Didn't do as good a job on that track in the back as I did on the front on the new extension. I didn't photograph there because I didn't want to give it away yet. On that track I even added some accents with dyes and chalks.
I'm definetly hooked. B.T.W. I was wondering where my crew went??

Rick,
Thanks, we need to hook up again, I'm thinking of hosting again in Jan/Feb.

Rich.

Absolutley beautiful! This forum has to be the best advertisement for products! Once I saw this, I think now I want one! Thanks to all of you that have pics on here of new models. Where I live, there is not a decent hobby shop within 200 miles. You have to rely on this forum to get a good look a product. Especially if there are five versions. With the exception of Jim Sutter, who is always helpful, if you call some of the other mail order retailers they will not take the time to describe a model, or God forbid look in a box! How else does someone review a model before purchase if you have to drive 200 miles! I will be waiting for pics of the L-4. Thanks Rich!

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superwarp1,
Good Morning. We have your "Mohawk" steam engine. Take care and have a great day.
Jimmy

Jimmy - we said he didn't want it - did you miss that post?.... Send it to Carmel, IN instead!

I was looking at those pictures and i swear i could feel my credit card trying to escape from my wallet in my back pocket. I think it knows it may be in for a workout.

The Engineer's side eccentric crank looks fine to me; between 9 and 12.5 degrees forward when the main crank pin is at bottom center. Plus, when the locomotive is stopped with the eccentric rod lined up exactly parallel with the main rod, you can grease every rod bearing ON BOTH SIDES!

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Originally posted by Norm Charbonneau:
Is that engineer side eccentric 90 degrees out??

No, the eccentric crank on the engineer's side is oriented correctly.

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Norm Charbonneau Posted October 28, 2009 07:50 AM
Not too bad for diecast. The air reservoirs and other appliances hide the boiler shape a bit beneath the walkways.

Is that engineer side eccentric 90 degrees out??

I may look for one of these used a year or two from now.

Norm,
One of these baby's is hankering for a weathering.

Rich,

Nice layout! Beautiful Engine!

Dave