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I am running Legacy with 3 SC-2 controllers, fastrack, 15 remote switches. I removed the remote switches and attached the wires directly to the SC-2 controllers. I have built a number of routes using the route builder and have started trying to use the route feature. Delay between switches has been increased to 1.5 seconds, which is above the 1 second recommended.
The route switches just can not be relied upon. Sometimes (too often for me) one or two switches don't switch when the route is activated. Usually the first or last switch in the route sequence will be the one that doesn't switch. Hitting the route number again sometimes gets the other switches to switch, but not always. There is no problem with the switches or SC-2 controllers in my lay-out, as the switches will ALWAYS switch when activated individually by their SW numbers on the Legacy remote.
Has anyone had any success getting the routes to work reliably?
 
Registered:: January 09, 2009Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Maybe the voltage droops too much when you fire a bank of switches at one time.

How are you powering the switches?


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Location: Park Ridge, Illinois | Registered:: March 23, 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Actually Michael the SC2 has built in time delay while executing the route. Each switch throws one at a time.


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Location: Kodiak Junction, U.S.A. | Registered:: May 27, 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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With my Cab-2 I can switch as rapidly as I want, if switches are addressed individually. Also the switches ALWAYS switch when addressed individually. The problem is that sometimes the route command will send all but one of the switch commands for the route. I can see hear this and also see this (green light) on the SC-2s. Sometimes repeating the route command will still not provide a command to the SC-2 or switch in question.

I have just started to add in sub-routes that duplicate the switches in the route. (This may repeat the number of times the command is sent to each switch in the route.) Limited testing but no missed switches so far.
 
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Greenline, I have done excessive testing with SC-2's and the Legacy system. I found that if you change your setting to 1 sec to 1.25 seconds, you will have the least throw errors. (not throwing) You hit the nail on the head when you create a sub-route to throw the same set of switches. I found that is the only way to get a 100% success rate. The problem lies in the programming of the SC-2. The Legacy is throwing commands at it too fast and it basically has a hard time keeping up. The ASC has no problems.

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