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I’ve made a search of past posts concerning replacement ladders, steps, etc, but I couldn’t find anything that mentioned brands, manufacturers, or sources.

I have a boxcar on which one of the seven-stepped end ladders was actually misshapen. I don’t think it could ever have been fitted properly. Anyway, it then fell to pieces in my hand. (Please stop laughing – it did!).

I think that a replacement in brass would be best, assuming that these things are available.

Can anyone suggest a reputable make, and a source of such items?

Ed Dyball,
London,
England
 
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Ed, right church wrong pew! Bet you were looking for the posts on the Atlas site, I think that's where the discussions were.

Buuuut,
I just happen to have my Precision Scale catalog handy!

For the brass AAR 7 rung side and 7 rung end ladder, the PSC number is PSH-40835. US$6.50 for the 4 pieces (2 side 2 end).

Can't go wrong, but they have a $20 minimum order. Easily filled, and if you need other things I'll help as much as I can with the parts #'s...

Only other thing is look out for some of the Intermountain box car sets. The original ones are O scale meet items for us.

As for sill steps (stirrup steps), PSC has those, but the All-Nation bronze strip ones are some of the better choices. Also, another train show or ebay item. Once mine run out I am using Special Shapes Co. stock # 05020 F-1x-2 "1/64 x 1/16 flat brass bar". Here's how I fabbed them, this set is for a resin boxcar:

http://forum.atlasrr.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42500&whichpage=1

I believe Chooch also makes them in engineering plastic or resin.

And Des Plaines Hobbies offers the Canadian 8 rung ones with integral sill steps.


Rob M.
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Tichy Trains also has 2 or 3 types of stirrups and also hand grabs. Very handy for replacing the molded-in trainman cars.

http://www.tichytraingroup.com/index.php?page=view_category.php&offset=0


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For a software test engineer, sheesh. Didn't you try the embedded link before you posted? The catalog URL gets a 404 page cannot be found.

Sorry Matt I couldn't resist!!!!!!!!! Big Grin

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Precision Scale Company, Inc.
2383 Meridian Road
Victor, MT 59875
Phone: (406) 642-3901
Fax: (406) 642-3904
psc@ixi.net


Quality and customer satisfaction is always first!

Precision Scale Company, Inc. (PSC) is one of the largest manufacturers of scale model railroading brass and plastic super-detailing parts in the world. Our extensive line of N, HO/HOn3, S/Sn3, O/On3/On2, 3/8", Gauge One, and 1/2" LGB parts now number in excess of 17,000 different items and continues to grow. Most of our parts have been developed within the 35+ years that PSC has been in business. Our parts are illustrated in our full line of catalogs http://psc1.virtualfocus.com/catalogs.htmls and over time we'll be adding them to this website.
PSC also imports high-quality, ready-to-run (RTR) brass models, which we've done now for over three decades. Our models are precisely handcrafted to prototype by our quality overseas partners, following PSC's stringent research and development specifications. Our manufacturing facility enables us to produce the highest quality original castings for our brass RTR models--no shrink casting and no copy castings! Over the years PSC has been known for new and innovative designs and developments for brass models, and we continue this effort today. Our ongoing goal is to produce excellent prototypical, smooth-running, super-detailed models.
Mountain Model Imports was started in 2003 as a way for Precision Scale Company to introduce models of brass quality but at a much more affordable price. MMI does this by using a combination of die-cast construction along with brass detail parts, which simplifies the manufacturing process and results in lower costs.
Each MMI model is built to PSC's exacting standards and is designed to run as good as it looks. Specifics vary, but all are DC and DCC ready and are designed to utilize modern sound, lighting, and operational control. There is no plastic on MMI models; these are true die-cast models and should not be confused with "die-cast" models consisting of a plastic body on a die-cast chassis. As an example, MMI's first model--an On3/On30 K-27--weighs over 6 pounds yet operates gracefully on as little as 2 volts DC.
We support our extensive dealer network and ask that you work directly with them for your RTR brass model needs. (If you have trouble contacting a PSC dealer, please let us know.) We do accept direct orders for our catalogs, detail parts, and kits. Our minimum order is $30.00 plus $7.00 S&H in the USA. (International customers, please inquire.) Due to our extensive line of products, most part orders require a two-week manufacturing process. Therefore, please allow three weeks for delivery of your order.


Thank you for your interest in PSC and we look forward to supplying you with all your modeling needs!


I have catalog # 4 (From last year) so if their minimums and postage have went from $20/$5 to $30/$7 I'd think that there are probably price increases due to rising costs.


Rob M.
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Originally posted by Rule292:
For a software test engineer, sheesh. Didn't you try the embedded link before you posted? The catalog gets a 404 page cannot be found.


To quote our developers: Works on my machine. Big Grin

Matt


They must be in Madras, Chennai... or is it Bangalore! Razz

Linky no worky for me.


Rob M.
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Originally posted by Rule292:
They must be in Madras, Chennai... or is it Bangalore! Razz



Nope. Go north young man.



Punjabi's? Smile


Rob M.
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Ed,

If you are into do it yourself, there was an article by Gene Deimling in his Proto48 column in O Scale Trains Mag a while back. I forget the exact issue, but you should be able to find it on the magazine's website.

SW
 
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Siestaman--- May I suggest that you fabricate the steps yourself? I make things like that out of flattened copper wire. I have a spool of copper wire . When I want to make detail parts I unroll some wire and give it a couple of whacks with a hammer on the anvil end of my vise and -- VIOLA!!-- I have flat stock to bend into shape. I believe the real railroads blacksmithed parts like this too. Don't forget this is O gauge and the mark of a good O gauger is how many hammers he wears out in the course of a year. Odd-d


R. E. Ottosen
 
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Originally posted by Odd-d:
Siestaman--- May I suggest that you fabricate the steps yourself? I make things like that out of flattened copper wire. I have a spool of copper wire . When I want to make detail parts I unroll some wire and give it a couple of whacks with a hammer on the anvil end of my vise and -- VIOLA!!-- I have flat stock to bend into shape. I believe the real railroads blacksmithed parts like this too. Don't forget this is O gauge and the mark of a good O gauger is how many hammers he wears out in the course of a year. Odd-d


I need to go buy me some hammers then!
:-)


 
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Detail Associates sell packs of flat stock brass in several sizes that are perfectly amenable to forming yourr own stirrup steps and ladders....


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Ed
What car is it for? I may have a used original. Mixing the odd brass cast/stamped and/or plastic ladders will be noticeable both in design and material thickness. Or drop me an email:
jason@quincevalleydesigns.co.uk
Jason
 
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Thanks for all the posts above.

Old Goat,
The results weren't very good because, I suspect, I had too many words in the search itself. I put in two, when one would have done.

Jason,
Thanks for your interest; I sent you an e-mail the night before last.

Lots of possibilities to check out here, but one further question.

I saw some neat stuff on the Chooch/Ultra-scale site, but can any of you gentlemen tell me whether there are any inherent problems painting Delrin plastic?

Thanks,

Ed
 
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Originally posted by siestaman:

...I saw some neat stuff on the Chooch/Ultra-scale site, but can any of you gentlemen tell me whether there are any inherent problems painting Delrin plastic?

Thanks,

Ed


Yes, lots of folks bead blast them lightly to give them "tooth".

Using Poly Scale paints is their recommendation, but it still chips off much easier than paints on other materials. Kind of like flexible plastic auto parts, they are durable but bend them and the paint chips right off.

It's like the age old problem of gluing delrin. Many tries, but no real success so far:

http://plastics.dupont.com/plastics/pdflit/americas/delrin/230323c.pdf


Rob M.
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Yes, lots of folks bead blast them lightly to give them "tooth".


I've never heard that one Rob. I'll have to try it as I don't like the color selection available for paintng lexan model car bodies which I've heard is the only paint that won't chip off delrin. If the delrin can be roughened up to accept standard model paints that is the way to go.

Butch
 
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Delrin is hard to get paint to stick. Blasting it with baking soda helps rough up the surface. Cleaning it carefully is a very important step regardless what you paint it with. There are mold releases and body oils on the material that will not permit any paint to stick.
Poly Scale works for me with proper surface prep. You can also use "Impact" paint mixed with Poly Scale or Floquil enamels. It is used by body shops to get paint to stick to flexible bumpers and trim found on new cars. Mainline Modler had an article on this many years ago.

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