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Hey Gang!
I'm waiting for a Berkshire Valley Pullman-Standard 53' 6" flat car kit to arrive. It is going to be painted in the B&O livery for TOFC service. What is the appropriate 2r truck that I should use? Who makes the most realistic coupler? Thanks in advance!!!    |
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Do you know where we can see an online photo of the prototype car? Do you know if it has roller bearing trucks or is it an early piggyback car with friction bearings?? I put Weaver roller bearing trucks on this ttx short flat to make it look like it had been updated, it was built from some kind of wooden kit.....dave  |
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Thanks for the replies so far! This is the link to the Berkshire Valley website. You will have to scroll about 2/3 down the page. I am building Kit #903. It looks very similar to what you have posted.
http://www.berkshirevalleyinc.com/trlfrght.html |
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Ever-frugal B&O kept using solid bearing ("friction") journals well into the 1960's until the FRA required roller bearings on all interchanged cars. Until the B&O as a corporation was formally closed-out in the 1980's, much of its older rolling stock with solid bearings was gradually retired as their need for shop work arose.
B&O was well known for its extended use of shopped, rebuilt but otherwise over-age freight cars. Hand-me-down cars from other CSX-related roads equipped with roller bearings filled in as older B&O cars retired. So your choice of trucks depends on the era you are modeling. TOFCEE as a trade name also retired as Chessie Systems and later, CSX developed. Chessie/CSX Trailer flats by the 1980's usually had roller bearing trucks under them. So if you are modeling from the 1950's to 1970's, the "Bettendorf" truck with solid ("friction") bearings would be accurate for a B&O TOFCEE flat car. Ed Bommer |
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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!  I'm assuming they were 50 ton trucks?Dave, where did you get the parts to finish off your flat car? I like the hose and coupler. This message has been edited. Last edited by: ChessieFan72, |
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About as accurate as Lionels TOFCEE.
A page from a copy of B&O TOFCEE book I got last year from the B&ORRHS. Note that they used screw jacks and chains instead of 5th wheel. Also bare center beam up the middle and tie down plates. Click on image!  B&O 24' trailers looked like Lionels PRR trailers with verticle ribs and side doors except B&O had blunt fronts instead of round. And the 33 footers looked like longer versions with dual axles. Only round nosed B&O trailers I found were a "modern" 33'refrigerated, in grey with blue lettering, and 33' flatbed. All the rest shown were blunt nosed. Lionels trailers are scale in length and width but a bit too tall. After TFCEE came B&OZ on long flats with roller bearing trucks. Swapped parts to a Lionel B&O flat. Just waiting for me to finish the trailers and figure out how to 2 rail it. Lionel did the P-25 flat car which was used in TOFCEE service and is basically the same 70 ton flat car as the P-31,P-32 and P-33 flats also used. http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/236034608003429368...sZy?vhost=good-times B&O Joe |
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The couplers are KDs the air hoses are thin vinyl tubing on brass airlines. I'm making them with magnetic ends now so the hoses can hook up...dave  |
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You should mass produce those airhoses. Very nice.
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Am I correct to assume the hose ends are polarized so that cars must be oriented in one direction for hose coupling to occur?
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sorry Matt, cannot see the article unless you join the group?
Chris |
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The magnets are small disc. If they are aligned one way they connect flat to flat, if the car is turned around they connect edge to edge, from a distance it doesn't make much difference in appearance....dave |
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OK Dave, fess up!!! Where do you get the materials for the hoses? What size tubing do you use? Where do you get the magnets and do they have a special name?
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Dave,
what PSC part number did you use for your glad hands and air cocks ? PSC05676 - Air hose glad hands, MU (6) PSC04050 - Air Hose w/angle cock & glad hand (4) PSC04278 - Air hose, w/angle cock & Glad hand (8) I read the how to on Proto48 Yahoo group Looks fantastic BTW. Thanks CSX Al Gotta' run - got a layout to build You can checkout photos, track plan of the layout and model photos & other projects at: http://home.earthlink.net/~csxal/ or how to's at: http://token3rail.blogspot.com/ |
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Hi Al, I don't know the part numbers, Ben used cast brass parts but I just wrapped a loop of thin wire around the gladhand magnet and ca. glued it into the end of the airhose. I made angle cocks from thicker brass wire and brass tube so I can turn the handles off or on depending on how the car is being used.
I can email Ben and see if he has the part numbers, I'll let you know if I find out anything...dave |
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Joe, There is a good article in the latest OSN or OST (can't remember now) about 2R'ing the Lionel TOFC and correcting some of the trailer details. Since I have to do this to several cars it was very timely and informative. Butch |
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 dave, I'd like to see a close up photo of how you made yours up with wire if you could. I am going to order the magnets and Larva Lace today.Thanks CSX Al Gotta' run - got a layout to build You can checkout photos, track plan of the layout and model photos & other projects at: http://home.earthlink.net/~csxal/ or how to's at: http://token3rail.blogspot.com/ |
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Hi Al, I got the PSC part number from Ben Brown, here's what he said..The PSC part no. is 4649 which includes a couple of sets of both parts plus airhose material, which of course for this application is too stiff. I've been putting a new roof on my house so haven't had time to take close up photos of my homemade angle cocks and glad hands. As soon as I get a break I'll post them ..Regards, Dave Branum |
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Thanks Dave, and be careful up on that roof.
CSX Al Gotta' run - got a layout to build You can checkout photos, track plan of the layout and model photos & other projects at: http://home.earthlink.net/~csxal/ or how to's at: http://token3rail.blogspot.com/ |
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Hi Al, I got some shots of making the airhoses and anglecocks. I noticed you belong to the yahoo P48 group so I stuck them in there. Look in the photo section for my P48 lite folder and you'll find about 6 photos. Let me know if you have any questions after looking them over.....Regards, Dave Branum
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Those are perfect. Now I just have to wait for the magnets & Larva Lace to come in.CSX Al Gotta' run - got a layout to build You can checkout photos, track plan of the layout and model photos & other projects at: http://home.earthlink.net/~csxal/ or how to's at: http://token3rail.blogspot.com/ |
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