I think its time we had some limits on the # of times we can post items and the
gauge of the items posted! We have people who never post on any board except for
this one and I think their should be limits!

Gunny

Gunny

I'll 2nd that. Some individuals just use the forum for selling.

John

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Some individuals just use the forum for selling.

And that's bad because?

I get to have a bigger selection of items to buy?

Sorry I don't understand what is the problem.

I am not a big supporter of limits and rules, unless of course there is a good reason. There may be well a good reason, but I for one don't see it.

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Originally posted by Al Schmidt:

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Some individuals just use the forum for selling.

And that's bad because?

I get to have a bigger selection of items to buy?

Sorry I don't understand what is the problem.

I am not a big supporter of limits and rules, unless of course there is a good reason. There may be well a good reason, but I for one don't see it.

What happens here is that you as an individual sell something; occasionally at a low price to help your fellow formumites and modelers; or maybe just to clean out the closet.

Folks/businesses that are into reselling come to fish for your discounts and resell them for a profit.

That is not in the spirit of what this buy/sell forum is about in my humble estimation.

A rule should be added that buying/reselling for profit is not permitted... or the rule prohibiting commercial entities in the buy/sell forum should be enforced.

I'd be real curious as to how the proposed 'regulation' would take place:

Limit on $$ amount
Limit on number of times per year/month can list
Party must 'contribute' to one of the forums a minimum number of times (I'll bet those contributions will be good)
No Dealers
No Wholesale outlets
No Private Parties
No References to E-Bay
No Trading
No Selling

This is a great was for folks to trade or sell back & forth. What's more, noby is forcing anyone to participate. Why break something not broken?

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Originally posted by Al Schmidt:

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Some individuals just use the forum for selling.

And that's bad because?

I get to have a bigger selection of items to buy?

Sorry I don't understand what is the problem.

I am not a big supporter of limits and rules, unless of course there is a good reason. There may be well a good reason, but I for one don't see it.

I agree. And you can't sell for profit!!! What's that all about?

It would be nice to have this rule enforced:

This Buy/Sell/Wanted forum is for private individuals and is not intended for use by hobby shops, dealers or other commercial entities.

Somebody buying cheap from someone (member or not)and reselling for a profit seems commercial to me.

I agree about the commercial entities but individuals selling and making a profit is OK by me. The market will decide if they can get away with making a profit or not.

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The market will decide if they can get away with making a profit or not.

Bingo.

Why assume commercial entities are taking advantage of us ignorant Forum members? This argument sounds to me like the whining about the sub-prime mortgage mess. Have you seen the number of signatures needed to buy a house these days? Can anybody reasonably say they didn't know the terms of their purchase? Same on the buy-sell board.
The only 'rule' I might like to see on the B/S board is that all 'sellers' should post a photo of the items. That would save this lazy guy a lot of trip to manufacturers' websites.

Someone here does not understand the concept of buying and selling. If I sell an item for a price that I am happy with (say $100) then I don't care what the buyer does with it. Once I have my money, he can paint, melt it down, or what ever he or she choses. No one forced me to sell the item for $100. When I sold it for $100 I was happy. Now if someone re-sells it for $200, should that make me unhappy? If someone re-sells it for $50 should I then be ecstatic?
No one is taking advantage of me if I am happy with the price I sold it for.
If you want to sell something to help someone, sell the item and give the money to charity, that way you know where it is going. Unless of course you are selling puppies.

I would second Alentown's suggestion. I would like to see all sellers post a photo of the items. I always do. Most of the item that I have purchased on the board were from pictures.

And what if someone doesn't own a digital camera of some sorts (hard to believe right?) Then there will not be any photos from them.

If you still want them to post a photo of the item, even from the manufacturer website, well, you're just being lazy and if you care that much you should take the product item # they give you and do the research yourself. I as well must do the same when I see something I'm interested in, but have no idea the specifics.

Geeez Dave. Sticks and stones.....

I don't peruse the Buy/Sell Board for entertainment and to hone my research skills. Where I come from a seller is well advised to do all possible to help his customers and potential customers.

Yea, but if a seller doesn't feel like adding that information, then its his decision and perhaps his loss. I understand your desire to make things easier, but any "rules" being added that may discourage a seller from posting his items is something I'm not for.

And if you're keen on really trying to get an item, perhaps at a good price or not, then the added time to look up a picture, etc is worth it.

I don't care if the same people post a hundred times a day on the buy/sell board. If they have something I want, I'll buy it, if not, I won't. Why would I want to limit a good resource for getting the things I want to complete my collection??? I want very specific things and sometimes I come across some on the buy/sell board. The more posts, the more likely I'll find what I am looking for. There are obviously not enough posts already, because I still haven't been able to get the Texaco tanker I want! I say NO LIMITS!

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Originally posted by Mike D:
I don't care if the same people post a hundred times a day on the buy/sell board. If they have something I want, I'll buy it, if not, I won't. Why would I want to limit a good resource for getting the things I want to complete my collection??? I want very specific things and sometimes I come across some on the buy/sell board. The more posts, the more likely I'll find what I am looking for. There are obviously not enough posts already, because I still haven't been able to get the Texaco tanker I want! I say NO LIMITS!

The only vice to this is people posting the same stuff for sale at the same prices day after day and bumping within a short amount of time. Otherwise, I don't care how many times they post as long as its new items and/or new prices, etc.

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Originally posted by jps7094:
Gunny

I'll 2nd that. Some individuals just use the forum for selling.

John

it looks to me that is what the buy -sell board is for. at least most guys dont overdo it like on svc. i think some of them put the whole store inventory on there.-jim

Profit?
What profit, lucky to sell a new engine at half price on here.

I've have said in the past that I would like to see what other buy/sell forums I read do and that is differentiate between dealers and Joe Hobbiest. This could easly be accomplished by using shading or bold lettering of the post on the title page.

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Some individuals just use the forum for selling.



And that's bad because?

I agree, what is so terrible? There is so much stuff out there now I don't know how people find anything anyway. It's nice the forum moderators put up with it. We should not complain about it, but use it if it works for you.

I agree with Jim.

I have found this forum to bolster my collection with equipment I'd never buy retail.

If I have one complaint or problem with this forum it's this. It's actually more of a question.

Where do you draw the line between a dealer and just a seller.

If a seller takes credit cards, uses e-bay or things along those lines, seems like a business to me! (even if it's a home based business like e-bay, that makes them a dealer)

To clear up confusion, I think the term dealer, or what a dealer is considered, needs to be cleaned up

I have a small train shop. I don't sell here and respect the policy. I have my own collection, purchased by me, not the shop.

Suppose I want to sell my stuff as an individual? Does that make me a dealer?
Actually I'm not a registered dealer with any company but do have a retail location. So I guess I'm not a dealer but a re-seller of toy trains.

Is that OK then? Or am I off base?

There are already rules at the top of the board,If anyone would care to read them.

doug

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There are already rules at the top of the board,If anyone would care to read them.

Doug, not to argue with you if this comment was directed at me.

The way I see it, the term dealer needs to be clarified.

People who have shops are not all dealers. In my case, I do it on the side. I'm not a "dealer" with any certain company or distributor.

With that said, I have read what the top of the board says and have never violated that statement.

My question is suppose a "dealer" Whatever the term means, wants to sell private collections that has nothing to do with the operations or inventory of said "dealership" "shop" "LHS" whatever.

If you sell on e-bay, That's running a home based business and makes said person a "dealer"????? Doesn't it? Unless these sellers aren't reporting this income. (if it's above $400 annually) I know on here, everyone is honest, and reports this income.

Now, you know some folks here also sell on the bay!

That's why the term needs to be a little more clearly defined.

I'm not arguing any policy from OGR, just suggesting that the "line in the sand" be better defined.

As far as I'm concerned, anything that's inventory for me, I couldn't compete pricewise anyway here.

I do have a quarter million dollar pre and post war collection I'm busting up soon and I'm doing it as an individual.

I would figure that people here on the "ogr forum" would like first shot at what I have coming in.

Otherwise I'll shut everyone out and pick and choose only my friends on this forum and let them have first pickins. Or just use the bay.

Point is that it's a private deal and has nothing to do with being a "dealer"

I agree with David, Al, Marty, et al. that there should be no rules. I don't care whether it's a dealer of any stripe (store, eBay, Internet, other) or an individual. If someone wants to sell at a given price and someone else wants to buy, then leave it simple and pure and let this be a place without restrictions or rules.

Practically speaking, such rules as have been suggested would be difficult or impossible to police, too. But that's secondary. Just let the trading occur.