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Thanks, that's extremely informative and it's a real before and after contrast. Nice work. A couple of questions:
Do you have your own sand blast cabinet? If so, where did you get it and what is the approximate cost?, and how much compressor power does it require? What is your cleaning medium? I've seen some inexpensive sand blast cabinets at Harbor Freight, but I'm always a bit suspicious of super-discount tools. Do you have any problem with the blast medium getting out as dust? You mention automotive glazing putty. I assume you are talking about a product equivalent to spackle, not Bondo. Can you get this at an ordinary auto parts store, or do you have to go to a body shop supply? |
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Because I also sandblast car parts and railroad artifacts, I opted for a professional sandblasting cabinet and a two-stage compressor. My cabinet came from TP Tools. It has a duct collection vacuum on it so dust is not a big issue for me.
http://www.tptools.com/ My compressor came from Eaton Compressor. It's a 5 hp. 80 gal. unit that requires 220v. http://www.eatoncompressor.com/page/page/504413.htm For blasting media, I usually use Skat Magic fro TP Tools. Their First Choice and Speed Bead products would also work good. Here is their comparison chart. http://www.tptools.com/lp2/Abrasive_Comparison.html Here is my setup. As far as the glazing putty is concerned, you will find this in most auto parts stores next to the Bondo. I believe Bondo even makes their own brand. Joe |
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Thanks for the info. That is a nice setup, way beyond anything I would think about putting in my shop. All I have is a little airbrush-type bead blasting attachment made by Paasche. I'd like to put in a sandblast setup but no room.
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Joe,
I know it may seem a bit funny to ask this, but where did you find that box at? Most boxes normally have 4 flaps on top, where as yours has only one. The sides of your box also seem to be a lot more substantial than a normal cardboard box. I have been looking for a used toaster oven to bake my parts in with no success, but using a box like this would be a lot cheaper. Nick Marakovits Lionel21 Lionel Forever |
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Nick,
I was going to ask Joe the same question. Also....Allan Miller if you are reading this, this would be an excellent....excellent project to print in one of the OGR issues, as this could also apply to o-gage tinplate. JoeG. |
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Joe,
Thanks for taking the time to put this together. It's a great how-to! I like the idea for the oven as well! Jim Route of Linganore Lines - where we still run them the 'old school' way! |
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I don't remember where I got the box. I've had two of them for years.
Joe |
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The box must have been for shipping something pretty heavy as the sides are framed with wood for added strength. Any box would work for this purpose though. I've seen some people even make wood boxes which allows them to make it the exact size they want.
This message has been edited. Last edited by: NJCJOE, Joe |
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Joe, thanks for the detailed, "How To" photos. That looks like a "Blast"!
The railroad club that I belonged to had a marvelous spray booth that was properly vented to the outside. Unfortunately, we have an acquaintance who has been building and painting custom cars as a hobby for the past 30 years in an unvented area, without a respirator. He now has significant neurological damage of the type that is described on the WARNINGS on the labels of a number of the adhesives, laquers, and paints that he has been using over the years. Just a thought! Again, many thanks for taking the time to post the excellent photos! Cordially, Dennis |
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Thanks Dennis.
You do have to be safe when doing restorations. When painting, especially indoors, sandblasting and using tools like wire wheels you need take certain precautions. Painting cars without a respirator is crazy. The first automobile I painted I didn't realize the charcoal filters were not installed (I was young and stupid). Talk about a major headache afterward. Joe |
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Excellent "How To" with great photographs, Joe! You offer some great tips on restoration and painting techniques. As you say, you can do the stripping using chemicals if you don't have a cabinet. I've done several that way.
"People do not 'graduate' from tinplate." - Louis Hertz, 1938 |
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Thank you Joe. Great thread and advice. I wish that sandblaster was nearby or portable. I'd love to have one. I boil everything and use a dremel for the tough spots. Thanks again and the restoration looks great!
__________________________________ Take care.....RJ (TCA 07-61869) |
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You're right Jim and RJ, stripper chemicals will definitely get the job done, just a little more time and mess. My sandblasting cabinet has paid for itself already. It has kind of spoiled me a bit.
Joe |
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They do make small bench top sandblasting cabinets that would be great for toy train restoration, but the problem is you still need a large source of air. A small compressor won't do the job. Before I got my latest compressor, I was always waiting on my old compressor to catch back up. It became very frustrating.
Joe |
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Great job Joe,I always like to see how people do different restorations. Show and tell to me is much better than reading about it. Hope to see more.
Mark Sr |
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Thanks Mark.
Joe |
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Thanks for taking the time, Joe, to put together the how-to in pictures and narrative. I put together a how-to thread several years ago on another forum (how to do a kickin' pork butt on the home smoker!) and took pics along the way -- from dressing the meat to a final sammich after the 10 hr. process from the smoker to the oven to the table. Just making sure my hands were clean enough to handle the camera at points was an effort in itself!
Thanks again and I love the restored result. |
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Thanks for spending the time to educate the uneducated. Where did you get the two stickers? I love the blast cabnet. I have the harbor freight version but need to step up to something bigger.
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Thank you guys.
1930harley, What stickers are you talking about? Joe |
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The one that says Lionel and No 517. Or are they brass?
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Those are the original brass plates polished up.
Joe |
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Joe,
Will we see this car on your rails in a tinplate consist on the "Sunday Photo Fun? Just Wondering, Joe |
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I'll have to take some pictures and get them posted.
Joe |
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Here are couple shots of the caboose on the layout, even a double 517 caboose restoration combo.
Joe |
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