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Posts: 4491 | Location: Ratville | Registered:: December 17, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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End users commonly add lionel name plates to MTH and T-Reproduction remakes to match their other models.
Normally the old mth nameplates are keep so the model can be changed back to stock.
Parts dealers sell new and used nameplates for just this purpose.
 
Posts: 172 | Location: Berkeley, CA USA | Registered:: July 30, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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End users commonly add lionel name plates to MTH and T-Reproduction remakes to match their other models.

I don't think that is the case with this model. This looks like a very early MTH production that was done for Lionel. That is the original business that Mike was in when he took over production from Williams.
 
Posts: 5214 | Location: Malden, MA and Saco, ME | Registered:: February 14, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I'm with Jim Katz. The box seems from the time MTH used Lionel name on plates. Whatever the case, very interesting.


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Posts: 8417 | Location: Beaverton, OR USA | Registered:: July 07, 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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This looks like a very early MTH production that was done for Lionel



Mikes Train House sold reproduction products with the Lionel name on it. The MTH stuff sold by Lionel carried the Lionel Classics packaging and not the early MTH boxes.

Early production MTH sometimes was painted in small numbers in different paint schemes. A friend of mine has a Stephen Girard set painted in Blue Comet colors.

The book A Toy Train Story may have this engine listed.


Jim C
Heard it from a friend who heard from a friend who knows someone that the trains keep running around
 
Posts: 1035 | Location: Liverpool,NY | Registered:: February 03, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Page 80 in "A Toy Train Story" lists the early production 400E's (1985-1986), and there is NO red 400E listed. Confused MTH did produce two-tone BROWN and two-tone GREEN 400E's to match the State Cars. I would not mind having the green version to pull my State Set! Smile

TM's FIRST MTH price guide (1999) lists the same 400E's found in "A Toy Train Story" on page 170. Once again, NO red 400E.

Farmer Bill would probably call it a "red herring"! Big Grin


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Posts: 10107 | Location: Nashville,TN & Robbinsville, NC | Registered:: May 11, 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I guess these would be the cars.

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Jim C
Heard it from a friend who heard from a friend who knows someone that the trains keep running around
 
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