Just got off the phone with Justrains. My Brute is in and is shipping!!!!

I was warned that the box weighs 53 pounds (got to love that free Justrains shipping!) and that the loco itself weighs in at 50 pounds even!! Brute may be an understatement.

Art, I dont think you will be able to handle this monster so I thought Id offer you 50 cents on the dollars to save you the pain. What do you say?

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Make sure you give us a full rundown when received.

I didn't order one and opted for the President's train and cars.

Enjoy!

It's like the birth of a new child coming home! Ok, maybe not that much but still an event for the memories.

Is it conventional or traditonal?

I'm sure Art has it covered. If not he can call me!

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Originally posted by mdainsd:
Just got off the phone with Justrains. My Brute is in and is shipping!!!!

I was warned that the box weighs 53 pounds (got to love that free Justrains shipping!) and that the loco itself weighs in at 50 pounds even!! Brute may be an understatement.

Art, I dont think you will be able to handle this monster so I thought Id offer you 50 cents on the dollars to save you the pain. What do you say?

Wow! Have never seen nor heard of a loco weighing 50 pounds. Eager to hear your thoughts when received.

Hmm...if the Brute tips the scales at 50 pounds and the packaging only weighs three pounds, I sure hope it's well-designed packaging.

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Originally posted by Marty W.:
Make sure you give us a full rundown when received.

I didn't order one and opted for the President's train and cars.

Enjoy!

It's like the birth of a new child coming home! Ok, maybe not that much but still an event for the memories.

Is it conventional or traditonal?

I'm sure Art has it covered. If not he can call me!

Traditional, Ive had my fill of Command and Control Electronics.

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Originally posted by Allan Miller:
Hmm...if the Brute tips the scales at 50 pounds and the packaging only weighs three pounds, I sure hope it's well-designed packaging.

Just reporting the facts ma'am.

three pounds is a lot of styrofoam @ approximately 1lb/cubic foot, LOL

for the breaking news!

The only loco I'm familiar with that's close in weight is the USA Trains diecast G gauge/ #1 gauge big boy that is around 50 pounds as well.

Please post photos upon arrival....I don't think they will be playing soccer with this package LMAO

I have mine and I finally got it running on the track. This thing is shipped in a metal cage. There enough metal in the packing to make another engine.
The biggest issue I am having is not the width but the height. I have shelves hanging over the layout. The Brute is about 9 1/2 to 10 inches tall. I have spent a good portion of the evening moving shelves because I had a lot of clearance issues. Plan on spending a minimum of 20 minutes just getting the brute out of it cage.
Scott Smith

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Originally posted by scott.smith:
I have mine and I finally got it running on the track. This thing is shipped in a metal cage. There enough metal in the packing to make another engine.
The biggest issue I am having is not the width but the height. I have shelves hanging over the layout. The Brute is about 9 1/2 to 10 inches tall. I have spent a good portion of the evening moving shelves because I had a lot of clearance issues. Plan on spending a minimum of 20 minutes just getting the brute out of it cage.
Scott Smith

Very Cool!

I can hardly wait.

Shipping weight was 53 pounds.

Scott Smith

Keep all that original packaging! It wont be worth a dime in the future without it

Scott, Justrains warned me that the Brute does not like illuminated lock-ons. Dont know if you have any or not.

We ran Bob Thons Challenger on the SGMA display layout last November. It weighs in at 75 lbs. Bob is the owner of Roberts Lines.

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I guess it really is a BRUTE ! MTH had to put it in a cage! Watch out Art it may not be house broken when you get it.

Good Lord...

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Originally posted by FERNCLIFF& GREENPOINT RY.:
We ran Bob Thons Clallenger on the SGMA display layout last November. It weighs in at 75 lbs. Bob is the owner of Roberts Lines.

where can one see pictures of one of these?

bit small...

The Purple engine in the picture is a 400E.
Scott Smith

Scott, I dont know you from Adam, but from reading this forum it seems that you from time to time have issues getting a new purchase in the door? If so, just how did you manage this one? Its not like you said "hey honey, look over there" and snuck it in while she was distracted?

So, do you like it?

Scott:

THANK YOU for the great photos! That protective metal frame is impressive looking! The folks at Nassau Hobby Center earlier today said they were shipping. My Brute will remain in its carton until I can transport it to Bear Creek. I am disappointed in the fact that it will apparently NOT negotiate the MTH lighted lockons. Can someone positively confirm this?

Paint finish looks great! Would like to see it next to one of your state cars.

Scott,

You may want to check the weight limit on that bridge.

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Scott, I dont know you from Adam, but from reading this forum it seems that you from time to time have issues getting a new purchase in the door? If so, just how did you manage this one?

Hiding a standard gauge engine is the equivalent of hiding a Volkswagen in your house--you just can't expect to get away with it very long. Hiding the Brute would be like hiding an 18 wheeler. She knew about the Brute. A few months ago she told me she had this dream of me sneaking in a huge box. The box said Lionel but it was beige and had an old time picture of a kid with his arms out stretched. In amazement I said WOW you were dreaming about the Brute. I took most of the grief then --she's still not happy at least I am not hiding it-like that would work.

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You may want to check the weight limit on that bridge.

That bridge is a 2 by 4 covered in landscape rock and tile grout. The rest of my viaducts are 1 by 4's. However I would recommend anyone that buys one of these make sure your check your bridges and overhead clearance --you need 10 inches overhead.

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Paint finish looks great! Would like to see it next to one of your state cars.

There are a couple of factory nicks. Sorry Art, I don't own any state cars. I never purchased a State Set---at this point why would I. New Brute cars should be in the February Lionel Corporation Tinplate Catalog.

Scott Smith

Very nice. I wish I had one. It sure does make that 400E look small.

Very impressive packaging, but I would be concerned about how well the MDF is going to hold up under typical mail order shipping. The stuff has a tendency to snap and repeated screwing eventually strips because it is so brittle.

Fred

Mercy. You could put that baby on the Amtrack Northeast Corridor. Now that is a "Brute". Enjoy.

Many thanks,

Billy C

scott.smith is the first with pictures. Who will be the first with video?

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Originally posted by GarySeven:
scott.smith is the first with pictures. Who will be the first with video?

MTH?

Forumite, of course!

The Brute really is a big bad monster! I could have never gotten it into the house without my wife and everyone else seeing it arrive. Never mind trying to carry it into the attic.

When seen next to the 400e one really gets a really good idea just how large the Brute actually is - and I thought the 400e was a 'large' engine.

I can only imagine how large the passenger cars are going to be. The engine and passenger car set combined will give a whole new meaning to the word 'tinplate'!

Factory nicks, you say? EEEK! I suppose just getting this thing into the box might cause a few nicks or scrapes, but still a $1500 engine - should be perfect! I hope my OCD will accept any deficiencies!

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I never purchased a State Set---at this point why would I. New Brute cars should be in the February Lionel Corporation Tinplate Catalog.

I haven't yet heard about the matching cars for the Brute. I haven't bought one yet as I went on a big kick of huge really large outdoor live steam trains for a while. What cars are in the works for the Brute? Maybe extra large States cars? Or something else? Is this a "for sure thing" or a rumer or hopeful thinking? Has anyone seen the non-motorized version yet? I want that one, but for half the price. Since it's not much more in parts than a car instead of an engine.

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where can one see pictures of one of these?

Bobs Challenger

go to the Syracuse show photos. The Challenger shows up with the tender in a seperate photo.More photos on 2nd page. If you want to buy one they are available.

Seeing that thing next to a 400E is stunning! Are there going to be cars that will match it's size? I believe I may sell off my MTH 381 and invest in that baby if cars are comming. I'll bet if I made a flat car with a seats on it I could pull my 2 grandkids around with it.
TumbleWEED

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I'll bet if I made a flat car with a seats on it I could pull my 2 grandkids around with it.

It's a big locomotive (for a Standard Gauge model), but I'm afraid it's not anywhere near big enough for that.

Here is a link to the un-caging of the Brute. My wife took pictures with written commentary.

Corrected Link:
http://www.facebook.com/album....5480223&l=e302915add

Scott Smith

She's funny!

I hope the 600e is next.


rat

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Originally posted by ratpak:
I hope the 600e is next.


rat

That might be an infringement issue. I think Liberty Lines owns that moniker.

okay..601e

rat

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Originally posted by ratpak:
okay..601e

rat

There you go! 800e ???

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Originally posted by ratpak:
I hope the 600e is next.
rat

For those who want to see this beauty again.........



Here is the desciption from the TCA site, "This amazing locomotive is a standard-gauge Liberty Lines 600E 2-6-4 locomotive, almost 36 inches long! Perhaps 100 were made, by TCA member Harlan Creswell of Seattle, WA. It is an extended version of the Lionel 400E locomotive made in the 1930s. This locomotive rivals the one-of-a-kind Lionel Super-381E which is on display at the Williamsport, PA Historical Society Museum."

I bet that 600E weighs more than 50 lbs.

The 600E is definitely at the top of my "Most Wanted" list. Not that I don't admit to a small amount of "Brute Envy" now that I see it on your shelves!

Kirk

I hope the hell the **** thing works...or i will QUIT this freakin FORUM!!!

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i will QUIT this freakin FORUM!!

Promises, Promises

One more ACELA post...and POOF I am GONE..YOU HAVE THE POWER...SCOTT SMITH!!! Now, MAN UP!!!